Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/26/1997 01:50 PM Senate JUD

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            SB  70 UNLAWFUL DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM                            
                                                                              
  SENATOR DAVE DONLEY , sponsor of the measure, explained that                 
 currently in Alaska it is not a felony to shoot at a building or              
 dwelling unless one knows it is occupied.  SB 70 makes it a felony            
 offense to fire a gun into a building and is the result of                    
 frustration expressed by police officers when attempting to                   
 prosecute for drive-by shootings.  Under current law, unless proof            
 is available that the person shooting the firearm knew the house              
 was occupied at the time of the shooting, the offender can only be            
 charged with a misdemeanor, unless property damage was more than              
 $500, in which case the charge would be a class C felony.                     
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  asked Senator Donley how the proposed committee             
 substitute varies from the original bill.                                     
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY  said in the original bill he tried to address every          
 possible area of criminal law that might be impacted by such a                
 change.  SB 70 restructured misconduct involving weapons                      
 provisions, added shooting at a building to the list of crimes                
 requiring automatic waiver to adult court, added provisions for               
 possible impacts on the concealed weapons permit section, and                 
 included this crime under the definition of most serious types of             
 crimes which is a trigger for the "three strikes" provision.  That            
 comprehensive approach made the bill very complicated and was an              
 attempt to cover all possible scenarios.  The proposed committee              
 substitute is very simple, and only deals with what it takes to               
 make it a felony to discharge a firearm in the direction of a                 
 building.                                                                     
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER  moved to adopt CSSB 70(JUD) (version O-LSO272\T) in          
 lieu of the original bill.  There being no objection, CSSB 70(JUD)            
 was adopted.                                                                  
                                                                               
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  SENATOR DONLEY  explained CSSB 70(JUD) contains an intent section to         
 clarify that discharge of a firearm at a building is a felony                 
 whether the offender knew the building was occupied or not. Section           
 2 is the core of the bill and establishes that a person commits a             
 felony if he/she discharges a firearm in the direction of: an                 
 occupied building; an unoccupied building with reckless disregard             
 for the risk of physical injury or damage; or a dwelling.  The                
 intent of this section is to omit a scenario in which someone                 
 shoots at an abandoned cabin in the woods, and was sure no one was            
 in the building.  Section 3 clarifies that the circumstances in               
 Section 2 should be considered differently from circumstances under           
 an existing law that makes it a misdemeanor to recklessly disregard           
 risk of property damage or physical injury but does not involve               
 buildings.                                                                    
                                                                               
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  ANNE CARPENETI , Assistant Attorney General, testified that the              
 Department of Law supports CSSB 70(JUD) with one exception. At                
 present, discharging a firearm with reckless disregard for a risk             
 of damage to property or a risk of physical injury to a person is             
 a class A misdemeanor under the misconduct involving weapons                  
 provision.  The Department of Law believes that activity should               
 remain a misdemeanor because the new language on page 2, lines 13-            
 14 would make the act of shooting at an abandoned shack in the                
 woods a felony by specifying property damage in the bill.  Under              
 current law, that activity is a property offense and is a                     
 misdemeanor unless the damage caused is in excess of $500, in which           
 case the offense is a class B felony.  Without that element                   
 included in the bill, the bill's intent, to make it a felony to               
 shoot at buildings whether occupied or not, is addressed because a            
 culpable mental state does not have to be proved.                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR PEARCE  noted in her district a veterinary clinic and NAPA           
 store have been shot at several times during drive-by shootings.              
 Those buildings are adjacent to a home, and a childcare facility.             
 No one has been injured during those shootings, but people are in             
 the vet clinic at odd hours to care for the animals.  She does not            
 believe the people involved in the drive-by shootings consider                
 whether the buildings are occupied.  Senator Pearce felt it is                
 dangerous to shoot at a person, animal or tire, and that those                
 types of offenses ought to be felonies.  She suggested describing,            
 by definition, the abandoned cabin scenario previously discussed.             
                                                                               
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  SENATOR DONLEY  suggested removing the words "damage to property or          
 a risk of" on page 2, lines 13-14.  He believed that would remove             
 the department's concern regarding property.                                  
                                                                               
  MS. CARPENETI  said that would go a long way to address the                  
 Department of Law's concerns regarding offenses strictly involving            
 property and in those cases, criminal law is focussed on the amount           
 of damage caused.                                                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR PEARCE  said in Anchorage these situations are occuring at           
 5:00 p.m., not in the middle of the night, and the offenders are              
 not concerned about whether they are only harming property.  She              
 stated she did not want to wait for a person to have to shoot                 
 another person before the offense becomes a felony.                           
                                                                               
  MS. CARPENETI  replied Senator Donley's suggested language would go          
 a long way to address the Department of Law's concerns.                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  did not think property damage was the focus of CSSB
 70(JUD) and moved to amend page 2, line 13, by deleting the words             
 "damage to property or a risk of."                                            
                                                                               
  SENATOR PEARCE  asked if the police would have to prove there might          
 have been a person in the building at the time of the shooting                
 before they could charge the offender with a felony.                          
                                                                               
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  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  thought they would have to show a likelihood that           
 people could have been in the building.  He explained that any                
 bullet shot at a building is going to cause physical damage, but              
 property damage statutes address that offense.  If the concern in             
 this bill is about physical injury to a person in the building, one           
 would have to prove that the offense was committed with reckless              
 disregard, and the intent section in CSSB 70(JUD) changes the                 
 requirement of proving that the offender knew someone was in the              
 building, to proving the act was so reckless they disregarded the             
 possibility.                                                                  
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY  thought the committee substitute will give                   
 prosecutors some discretion regarding when they bring cases, and              
 judges the discretion to decide whether a particular level of                 
 disregard was shown.  The proposed amendment would also allow for             
 some discretion because if one shoots into a commercial building in           
 an urban area, it is very possible people are working in those                
 buildings at night.                                                           
                                                                               
  MS. CARPENETI  noted other statutes address similar instances, for           
 example, if a person is put in fear, the offender would be charged            
 with assault.                                                                 
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY  remarked the difference is that a victim must exist.         
 CSSB 70(JUD) does not require that a real person be present during            
 the shooting.                                                                 
                                                                               
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  SENATOR PEARCE  commented any weekend employee at the vet clinic             
 will constantly wonder if another drive-by shooting will occur, so            
 whether another incidence occurs or not, the fear factor has                  
 already been created.                                                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY  thought that was true, but would not meet the                
 current definition in the assault statute because there must be an            
 immediate fear of injury.                                                     
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  stated the bill is stronger without the amendment           
 because the only standard that would need to be shown is that                 
 someone fired with reckless disregard of property damage.                     
                                                                               
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  SENATOR DONLEY  said the definition of "recklessly" requires that            
 the risk must be of such a nature and degree that disregard of it             
 would constitute a gross deviation from the standard of conduct               
 that a reasonable person would observe in the situation.  He                  
 believed shooting into a building where people might be working               
 during the night would fit that definition.                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  withdrew his amendment.   SENATOR PEARCE  moved CSSB
 70(JUD) from committee with individual recommendations and the                
 appropriate fiscal notes.  There being no objection, the motion               
 carried.                                                                      

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